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Poll Question: Will GM, Ford, and Chrysler All Be Around In 2010?
I vote yes, as President Obama's recent comments indicate that he understands their collective importance to the U.S. economy. Your thoughts, please.
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Permalink Reply by Aaron Timlin on
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Ford, yes. GM and Chrysler are bye bye. I was saying bye bye to all the GM and Chrysler cars we passed the other day. It was fun, actually. Bye bye Saturn...Hello Camry...and so on.
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Actually it is good that these inefficient and ineffective and uncreative companies move aside for new companies:
http://www.teslamotors.com/
http://www.driveelectric.org/
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Permalink Reply by Tina R. Johnson on
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while i think the old boys club will dig their heels in and keep trying to do what they do. things have already shifted and we cannot go back. it is time for the complete overhaul. i worked in a commercial art studio for 15 years and we were certainly bottom feeders to the big 3. i feel sorry for the vendors and suppliers that put all of their eggs in the automotive basket. i think they will be around, but a pale version of the current and i welcome the change.
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Permalink Reply by Tim Pulice on -
I feel your pain, fellow Michiganders, but letting GM and Chrysler go away is akin to selling one's house before having another place to stay, i.e. acting without a plan. Yes, they have made mistakes aplenty, but if either/both were to go under, Ford probably would go, too, since most suppliers wouldn't survive on Ford alone. We'd likely be looking at a recovery of time of 5+ years, and not just in Michigan. I'm not sure that's survivable. Aaron, you're right to mention Tesla, because Elon Musk and company are way ahead of the industry, as a whole. I wrote about Tesla and Musk in Crain's 2-3 years ago. But having worked last year at Wunderman-Team Detroit (whose major client is Ford), I can say that Ford is not far behind technologically or organizationally, and is poised to help drive the business in a new direction.
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Permalink Reply by Peter F. Traskal on -
No, not as we have come to know them, they will be a nitche market at best. However this is extremely bad for the U.S. overall, say goodbye to the U.S. middleclass and welcome in the new wave of slaves from the third world country of your choice. It's so woerd to see everyone pile on the UAW after what they have done for the middleclass in this country. As the guy who owns the pawn shop in palm beach replied, in response to the Bernie Madoff fiasco, what's your advice for the future? Buy ammo and grain, never have truer words been spoken, we're doomed.
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Permalink Reply by Peter F. Traskal on
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Ford has no choice but to follow the same plan as G.M. and Chrysler how are they suppose to pay for the same legacy cost's that the other two companies just obliderated under the benevolency of the U.S. Bankrupcty courts, and be the only company on the globe with a dinosaur approach, not feasable.
Tim Pulice said:I feel your pain, fellow Michiganders, but letting GM and Chrysler go away is akin to selling one's house before having another place to stay, i.e. acting without a plan. Yes, they have made mistakes aplenty, but if either/both were to go under, Ford probably would go, too, since most suppliers wouldn't survive on Ford alone. We'd likely be looking at a recovery of time of 5+ years, and not just in Michigan. I'm not sure that's survivable. Aaron, you're right to mention Tesla, because Elon Musk and company are way ahead of the industry, as a whole. I wrote about Tesla and Musk in Crain's 2-3 years ago. But having worked last year at Wunderman-Team Detroit (whose major client is Ford), I can say that Ford is not far behind technologically or organizationally, and is poised to help drive the business in a new direction.
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Permalink Reply by Peter F. Traskal on
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Tesla won't make it, too much in-fighting.
Tim Pulice said:I feel your pain, fellow Michiganders, but letting GM and Chrysler go away is akin to selling one's house before having another place to stay, i.e. acting without a plan. Yes, they have made mistakes aplenty, but if either/both were to go under, Ford probably would go, too, since most suppliers wouldn't survive on Ford alone. We'd likely be looking at a recovery of time of 5+ years, and not just in Michigan. I'm not sure that's survivable. Aaron, you're right to mention Tesla, because Elon Musk and company are way ahead of the industry, as a whole. I wrote about Tesla and Musk in Crain's 2-3 years ago. But having worked last year at Wunderman-Team Detroit (whose major client is Ford), I can say that Ford is not far behind technologically or organizationally, and is poised to help drive the business in a new direction.
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Permalink Reply by Peter F. Traskal on
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How is this fun, what the hell is wrong with you, people work for these companies, and have families that depend on them, where the hell were you brought up?
Aaron Timlin said:Ford, yes. GM and Chrysler are bye bye. I was saying bye bye to all the GM and Chrysler cars we passed the other day. It was fun, actually. Bye bye Saturn...Hello Camry...and so on.
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